FBI, CIA NOT ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT RUSSIAN HACKING! (MAYBE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE ABOUT RUSSIA HELPING TRUMP IS NOT SUBSTANTIATED)
Nancy Pelosi's daughter leads electors demanding intel
briefing on Russia's ties to Donald Trump!
Contrary to claims made by Democrats about Russian
interference helping President-elect Donald J. Trump, there is no definitive
proof that the Kremlin ordered such cyber-attacks. It’s all based on
circumstantial evidence, innuendo, and anonymous sources that are bound by an
apparent inter-
agency feud between the CIA and the FBI. On December 10, The
Washington Post reported that both agencies were not on the same page, which
seemed to have angered Democrats:
Sitting before the House Intelligence Committee was a senior
FBI counterintelligence official. The question the Republicans and Democrats in
attendance wanted answered was whether the bureau concurred with the
conclusions the CIA had just shared with senators that Russia “quite” clearly
intended to help Republican Donald Trump defeat Democrat Hillary Clinton and
clinch the White House.
For the Democrats in the room, the FBI’s response was
frustrating — even shocking!
During a similar Senate Intelligence Committee briefing held
the previous week, the CIA’s statements, as reflected in the letter the
lawmakers now held in their hands, were “direct and bald and unqualified” about
Russia’s intentions to help Trump, per one of the officials who attended the
House briefing.
The competing messages, per officials in attendance, also
reflect cultural differences between the FBI and the CIA. The bureau, true to
its law enforcement roots, wants facts and tangible evidence to prove something
beyond all reasonable doubt. The CIA is more comfortable drawing inferences
from behavior.
The Post added that the meeting from the FBI briefer
reportedly devolved into Democrats trying to corner the briefer on whether
Russia had a favorite in this election. It all boiled down to a lack of
evidence to definitively say that Russia helped Trump in this election, which
is something
President Obama has been quiet on, despite the palace intrigue that has permeated the air waves. Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept also tore into the claims that Russia hacked the election to help Trump, slamming Democrats for jumping the gun on the CIA’s incomplete claims as gospel.
President Obama has been quiet on, despite the palace intrigue that has permeated the air waves. Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept also tore into the claims that Russia hacked the election to help Trump, slamming Democrats for jumping the gun on the CIA’s incomplete claims as gospel.
Greenwald added that there should be some basic ground rules when it comes to
Russia, hacking, and the 2016 election. No one should be making claims, like
Democrats have, concerning hacking without evidence (a no-brainer, right?),
that CIA reports should be subject to extreme scrutiny since they lie for a
living, that people should consider the FBI-CIA feud, and that the last 24-48
hours have been rife with contradictions, which should add to the uncertainty.
No one is saying
don’t investigate these claims, but the Left, in their
inability to take responsibility for nominating one of the most flawed
candidates to ever run for the presidency, have gone gung-ho with these
Russians totally hacked the election to help Trump claims that are
unsubstantiated at best. Moreover, Greenwald also adds the biases between the
two agencies; how the intelligence community was staunchly opposed to Trump,
whereas those who were investigating Clinton’s email fiasco at the FBI were
hoping she would get prosecuted for not following protocol concerning sensitive
material or at least stripping her of her security clearance.
At the same time,
it’s also a bit surprising since the Clintons reportedly made even members of
the intelligence community nervous due to her penchant to play by a different
set of rules—or at least that’s what David Ignatius postulated. Frankly, an
unauthorized and unsecure server that was capable of being hacked by foreign
actors and most certainly had classified material sent through it (though not
classified at the time) is more startling. She skirted protocol; Trump didn’t.
Three emails that were sent through Clinton’s server were determined to be
classified at the time they were sent and received, but were marked Improperly.
Regardless, in the end, Greenwald’s main point is that anonymous sources are
not akin to actionable evidence:
Democrats — still eager to make sense of their election loss
and to find causes for it other than themselves — immediately declared these
anonymous claims about what the CIA believes to be true, and, with a somewhat
sweet, religious-type faith, treated these anonymous assertions as proof of
what they wanted to believe all along: that Vladimir Putin was rooting for
Donald Trump to win and Hillary Clinton to lose and used nefarious means to
ensure that outcome. That Democrats are now venerating unverified, anonymous CIA
leaks as sacred is par for the course for them this year, but it’s also a good
indication of how confused and lost U.S. political culture has become in the
wake of Trump’s victory.
…The reasons no rational person should blindly believe
anonymous claims of this sort — even if it is pleasing to believe such claims —
should be obvious by now.
To begin with, CIA officials are professional, systematic
liars; they lie constantly, by design, and with great skill, and have for many
decades, as have intelligence officials in other agencies. Many of
those incidents demonstrate, as hurtful as it is to accept, that these agencies even lie when there’s a Democrat overseeing the executive branch.
those incidents demonstrate, as hurtful as it is to accept, that these agencies even lie when there’s a Democrat overseeing the executive branch.
Beyond that, what makes claims from anonymous sources so
especially dubious is that their motives cannot be assessed. Who are the people
summarizing these claims to the Washington Post? What motives do they have for
skewing the assertions one way or the other? Who are the people inside the
intelligence community who fully ratify these assertions and who are the ones
who dissent? It’s impossible to answer any of these questions because everyone
is masked by the shield of anonymity, which is why reports of this sort demand
high levels of skepticism, not blind belief.
The timing of the leaks:
To start with, the timing of these leaks is so striking.
Even as Democrats have spent months issuing one hysterical claim after the next
about Russian interference, the White House, and Obama specifically, have been
very muted about all of this. Perhaps that’s because he did not want to appear
partisan or be inflammatory, but perhaps it’s because he does not believe there
is sufficient proof to accuse the Russian government; after all, if he really
believed the Russians did even half of what Democrats claim, wouldn’t he (as
some Democrats have argued) be duty-bound to take aggressive action in
retaliation?
It was announced yesterday afternoon that Obama had ordered
a full review of hacking allegations: a perfectly sensible step that makes
clear that an investigation is needed, and evidence disclosed, before any
definitive conclusions can be reached. It
was right on the heels of that announcement that this CIA leak emerged: short-cutting the actual, deliberative investigative process Obama had ordered to lead the public to believe that all the answers were already known and, before the investigation even starts, that Russia was guilty of all charges.
was right on the heels of that announcement that this CIA leak emerged: short-cutting the actual, deliberative investigative process Obama had ordered to lead the public to believe that all the answers were already known and, before the investigation even starts, that Russia was guilty of all charges.
Greenwald also notes how the Democrats’ anti-Russia fetish
is coalescing into a new neo-McCarthyite ethos that’s rather annoying, though
entertaining at times, where any mention to the contrary about the Left's
claims concerning Russia's intentions during the 2016 election is taken as
support for Russia and Putin:
…here’s how I defined the McCarthyite atmosphere that
Democrats have deliberately cultivated this year:
So, that’s the Democratic Party’s approach to the 2016
election. Those who question, criticize or are perceived to impede Hillary
Clinton’s smooth, entitled path to the White House are vilified as stooges,
sympathizers and/or agents of Russia: Trump,
WikiLeaks, Sanders, The Intercept, Jill Stein. Other than loyal Clinton supporters, is there anyone left who is not covertly controlled by or in service to The Ruskies?
WikiLeaks, Sanders, The Intercept, Jill Stein. Other than loyal Clinton supporters, is there anyone left who is not covertly controlled by or in service to The Ruskies?
Concerns over Democrats’ McCarthyism never had anything to
do with a desire for an investigation into the source of the DNC and Podesta
hacking; everyone favored such investigations. Indeed, accusations that
Democrats were behaving in a McCarthyite manner were predicated — and still are
— on their disgusting smearing as Kremlin agents anyone who wanted evidence and
proof before believing these inflammatory accusations about Russia.
To see the true face of this neo-McCarthyism, watch this
amazing interview from this week with Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, one of the
party’s leading Russia hawks (he’s quoted in the Post article attacking Obama
for not retaliating against Putin). When Schiff is repeatedly asked by the
interviewer, Tucker Carlson, for evidence to support his allegation that Putin
ordered the hacking of Podesta’s emails, Schiff provides none.
Click here> SCHIFF VS CARLSON, WHO GETS THE KNOCKOUT!
Click here> SCHIFF VS CARLSON, WHO GETS THE KNOCKOUT!
What he does instead is accuse Carlson of being a Kremlin
stooge
and finally tells him he should put his program on RT. That — which has become very typical Democratic rhetoric — is the vile face of neo-McCarthyism that Democrats have adopted this year.
and finally tells him he should put his program on RT. That — which has become very typical Democratic rhetoric — is the vile face of neo-McCarthyism that Democrats have adopted this year.
Admittedly, maybe I jumped the gun to say that there was no
proof of a Russia-Trump alliance based solely on anonymous sources; I usually
make a note stressing when something is rumor or based on an anonymous source.
And I’ve always made sure that such stories have a “stay tuned” mention towards
the end. Because often, especially with these stories—we don’t know. But this
is different. As you can see, Democrats are so desperate in their attempts to
undercut the president-elect and avoid slamming Clinton as a horrible
candidate, that they’re using rumor as proof. I’ll be sure to make a note of
such sources in future posts because as you can see—this whole thing has gone
off the hinges. We have the Huffington Post reporting that this
unsubstantiated claim of Russian interference in our election is the “political equivalent of 9/11.” I’m going to sit back until we get on the record remarks from U.S. officials. Because as Greenwald and the Post noted, we really can’t say for sure that Russia directed such cyber-attacks to help Trump. ~~By Matt Vespa, a Friend of America!
unsubstantiated claim of Russian interference in our election is the “political equivalent of 9/11.” I’m going to sit back until we get on the record remarks from U.S. officials. Because as Greenwald and the Post noted, we really can’t say for sure that Russia directed such cyber-attacks to help Trump. ~~By Matt Vespa, a Friend of America!
CLINTON CAMPAIGN WANTS INTEL BRIEFINGS FOR ELECTORAL COLLEGE
MEMBERS, BUT IT NOW APPEARS THAT WON’T BE HAPPENING, OR WILL IT?
The House Intelligence Committee has asked four intelligence
agencies for a briefing Thursday on alleged Russian interference in the U.S.
election, The Hill has learned.
The Washington Post reported that the CIA believed hacks
into the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations were
an explicit attempt by the Russian government to help Donald Trump attain the White House — an
assessment the FBI reportedly did not believe the evidence supported, and I am now hearing that none of the four are going to be showing up, which makes this little ditty appear to be less than factual. Thanks Josh for exposing the exiting President to the Deplorable status that Hillary attributed to Trump Supporters of old, and you continue doing today!
Click here> JOSH AT HIS BEST, DELIVERING 'FAKE NEWS!'
assessment the FBI reportedly did not believe the evidence supported, and I am now hearing that none of the four are going to be showing up, which makes this little ditty appear to be less than factual. Thanks Josh for exposing the exiting President to the Deplorable status that Hillary attributed to Trump Supporters of old, and you continue doing today!
Click here> JOSH AT HIS BEST, DELIVERING 'FAKE NEWS!'
McConnell Backs Senate Investigations of Russian Hacking!
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has thrown its support behind an
effort to provide members of the Electoral College with intelligence briefings
on Russian breaches of U.S. political organizations before the College formally
votes to elect Donald Trump president next week.
"The bipartisan electors' letter raises very grave
issues involving our national security. Electors have a solemn responsibility
under the Constitution and we support their efforts to have their questions
addressed," Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said Monday, responding
to a request for briefings by a group of electors.
Podesta's strongly
worded statement signals a clear shift in strategy from Clinton and her team,
who have until now shown no interest in questioning the legitimacy of last
month's election. And it could crack the door to further challenges or give
succor to some Democrats' long-shot hope that Trump's election could be upended
when the Electoral College convenes December 19.
A large trove of
Podesta's emails were released by WikiLeaks late in the campaign, and
intelligence officials believe the emails were provided to the organization by
the Russians.
Trump defeated Clinton in the general election by an
electoral vote margin of 306-232. Since then,
Clinton has pulled ahead of Trump by a popular vote margin of nearly 3 million’ ‘BUT’ the ‘Paid to Report’ Media never tells you about the three million votes in the U.S. presidential election that were cast by illegal aliens, per Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.
Clinton has pulled ahead of Trump by a popular vote margin of nearly 3 million’ ‘BUT’ the ‘Paid to Report’ Media never tells you about the three million votes in the U.S. presidential election that were cast by illegal aliens, per Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.
If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the
contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular
vote.
“We have verified more than three million votes cast by
non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an
analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations, ‘BUT’ I guess there
attributing these claims and others of being ‘FAKE NEWS’ and irrelevant even
though common sense with 13 million unvetted illegal immigrants and refugees,
and the 4 million dead voters still on the voter rolls, that the findings are
practically impossible, and not verified, right? Oh, and
don’t forget the video of Obama encouraging illegals to vote with no chance of repercussions!
Experts say electors' ability to reverse the November 8
results remains virtually impossible, but mainstream Democrats have felt
emboldened to raise doubts about the outcome following news this weekend that
the CIA formally concluded the Russian government worked covertly not just to
disrupt the election, but to help Trump win. Four powerful senators — two
Democrats, two Republicans — released a statement calling for a joint probe
into Russia's actions.
"We now know that the CIA has determined Russia's
interference in our elections was for electing Donald Trump. This should
distress every American. Never in the history of our Republic have we seen such
an effort to undermine the bedrock of our democracy. This is not a partisan
issue and we are glad to see bipartisan support in the Congress for an
investigation into Russia's role," Podesta said in his statement.
Trump and his campaign have vehemently denied any Russian
intervention on their behalf, accusing the intelligence agencies he will soon
head of being politicized and misinformed. Some allies, including John Bolton,
a potential senior Trump State Department nominee, have even
accused the Obama
Administration without evidence of hacking the Democratic National Committee
and Podesta's personal Gmail account in a "false flag" operation.
Earlier Monday, a group of 10 Electors, including some
well-known Democrats head up by Nancy Pelosi's daughter and one Republican, sent an open letter to James Clapper,
the Director of National Intelligence, requesting briefings on alleged Russian
meddling in the election.
"The Electors require to know from the intelligence
community whether there are ongoing investigations into ties between Donald
Trump, his campaign or associates, and Russian government interference in the
election," their letter reads. "We further require a briefing on all
investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in
our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the
United States."
The signatories include Christine Pelosi, a California
Democratic strategist and daughter of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi,
New Hampshire Representative-elect Carol Shea Porter, Washington, D.C. Councilwoman Anita Bonds, along with other respected Democrats, all of whom are members of the Electoral College.
New Hampshire Representative-elect Carol Shea Porter, Washington, D.C. Councilwoman Anita Bonds, along with other respected Democrats, all of whom are members of the Electoral College.
The Democratic signatories were joined by Republican Chris
Suprun of Texas, who wrote an op-ed explaining why he won't cast his Electoral
College vote for Trump.
The 538 members of the Electoral College will meet next
Monday in each state capital to cast the votes to will formally elect Trump
president. They are bound to vote for the popular vote winner in
their states, but some so-called "Faithless Electors" have vowed to refuse to cast a ballot for Trump.
their states, but some so-called "Faithless Electors" have vowed to refuse to cast a ballot for Trump.
Technically, this is the only vote that matters, so some
Democrat and Republican critics have prayed that a last-minute intervention by
the Electors could prevent Trump from becoming president. Their dreams are
highly unlikely to become reality for a host of legal and political reasons,
not least because Trump has a wide 74-vote margin. ~~by ALEX SEITZ-WALD, a
Friend of America!
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